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终于到了最后 美国2016年大选终场辩论(中英对照)(5)

  We’ve had people that are political hacks making thebiggest deals in the world, bigger than companies. You take these bigcompanies, these trade deals are far bigger than these companies, and yet wedon’t use our great leaders, many of whom back me and many of whom backHillary, I must say. But we don’t use those people. Those are the people —these are the greatest negotiators in the world. We have the greatestbusinesspeople in the world. We have to use them to negotiate our trade deals.

  我们有智囊团做着世界上最大的交易,比公司间的交易可大得多。你们想想那些大公司的交易有多大,我们智囊团的可比他们的交易大多了,而且这还是在没有动用王牌的情况下。这些王牌们,说实话,有些支持我,有些支持希拉里。但是我们不会出动这些人。他们这些人是世界上最伟大的谈判家。我们拥有世界上最优秀的商人,我们要用他们来谈判贸易问题。

  CLINTON: Well, first, when I hear Donald talk like thatand know that his slogan is “Make America Great Again,” I wonder when hethought America was great. And before he rushes and says, “You know, before youand President Obama were there,” I think it’s important to recognize that hehas been criticizing our government for decades.

  希拉里:好吧,首先,当我听到唐纳德的竞选口号是“让美国重新伟大起来”的时候,我不禁开始思考他是什么时候觉得美国伟大的。他之前也急匆匆的表示过“你知道的,就是在你和奥巴马总统上台之前啊”,我觉得他可能已经怪罪我们现任政府很多年了吧。

  You know, back in 1987, he took out a $100,000 ad in theNew York Times, during the time when President Reagan was president, andbasically said exactly what he just said now, that we were the laughingstock ofthe world. He was criticizing President Reagan.

  在1987年的时候,他砸了10万美金给纽约时报打广告,当时正是里根总统的任期,而且口号跟他现在说的基本一毛一样,他当时还批判里根总统来着,这简直就是是世界上最大的笑话啊。

  But if you look at the debt, which is the issue you askedabout, Chris, I pay for everything I’m proposing. I do not add a penny to thenational debt. I take that very seriously, because I do think it’s one of theissues we’ve got to come to grips with.

  但是如果我们来看看你刚刚提到的债务问题,我为我说的一切负责。我不会给我们的国债家一分钱,因为我是在很严肃认真的对待这个事情,因为我觉得这确实是我们的燃眉之急。

  We’ll have what economists call middle-out growth. We’vegot to get back to rebuilding the middle class, the families of America. That’swhere growth will come from.

  我们要使中产阶级壮大起来。我们要重新壮大我们的中产阶级,美国的家庭。这才是我们之后经济的增长点。

  问题8:社会福利

  WALLACE: All right. Let me start with you, Mr. Trump,would President Trump make a deal to save Medicare and Social Security thatincluded both tax increases and benefit cuts, in effect, a grand bargain onentitlements?

  主持人:好了。先从你开始吧特朗普先生,如果你当选你会采取措施既保全医保社保又使收税提高救济金降低吗,也就是说,你有一个双赢的方案吗?

  TRUMP: I’m cutting taxes. We’re going to grow theeconomy. It’s going to grow at a record rate of growth. And one thing we haveto do: Repeal and replace the disaster known as Obamacare. It’s destroying ourcountry. It’s destroying our businesses, our small business and our bigbusinesses. We have to repeal and replace Obamacare.

  我会削减税收的。我们得发展经济。而且是飞速发展。我们必须要做的一件事是:反对并且废除那个所谓的奥巴马医改,简直就是个灾难。这玩意就是在毁灭我们的国家,毁灭我们的商业,不管是大型的还是小型的。我们必须要反对和废除奥巴马医改。

  CLINTON: Well, Chris, I am on record as saying that weneed to put more money into the Social Security Trust Fund. That’s part of mycommitment to raise taxes on the wealthy. My Social Security payrollcontribution will go up, as will Donald’s, assuming he can’t figure out how toget out of it.

  希拉里:我之前有说过我们要多投钱到社保信托基金。这也是我对富人要提高税收的承诺。我的社保受益人名单里会有越来越多的人,而特朗普只想着怎么摆脱它。

  TRUMP: Such a nasty woman.

  特朗普:呵呵,这女人好阴险。

  CLINTON: ... by making sure that we have sufficientresources, and that will come from either raising the cap and/or finding otherways to get more money into it. I will not cut benefits. I want to enhancebenefits for low-income workers and for women who have been disadvantaged bythe current Social Security system.

  希拉里:为了确保我们能有充足的资源,也为了确保能够募集到足够的资金到我的计划里,我不打算削减救济金。我还打算提高给低收入人群(包括由于现行的社保系统而处于劣势的工人和妇女)的救济金。

  And I’ll say something about the Affordable Care Act,which he wants to repeal. The Affordable Care Act extended the solvency of theMedicare Trust Fund. So if repeals it, our Medicare problem gets worse. What weneed to do is go after...

  同时我也想说一下奥巴马医改,就是特朗普想废除的那个。奥巴马医改极大的提高了医保信托基金的偿付能力。因此如果要废除的话,我们的医保问题会愈发严重的。

  TRUMP: Your husband disagrees with you.

  特朗普:你老公第一个就不同意。

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